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I just can agree with Valery. I do not own Saturn and I can consider it maybe if they bring the Opel Vectra as Saturn in 1998. I spoke with a Saturn salesman (a very rare kind of sincere one) in one of their dealerships (I won't tell the name of that dealership) and he confirmed, what I felt before. Basically, what we did agree, that Saturn made a perfect brainwashing with the "no-haggle price" and "the best quality of any car made in U.S.". Actually, if you see, they succeed. I think, the "quality" of the car is asubjetive matter: you spend $15000 or $20000 or maybe even more - and you will a perfect machine for that amount of money. No wonder, Volvo owners may complain more... they may be just perfectionists. On the other side, with a good amount of brainwashing, the car manufacturer can influence its customers. The sales guy agreed to this...And just laughed. A former colleague of me bought a 1996 SL2. Well, I sat in his car... I bought a 1995 Chevy Lumina LS with 3.4L motor for ca. $17000 (last year model, brand new, no miles, no recalls, minor complains on my side - I am picky). My car was just ca. $1500 more, than his car - but it is far, far, far better. (Of course, the gas mileage is worse in a large car, than in a compact one...but SL2 doesn't has 215 horses) Now you can buy new (not used or "program" cars) near-luxury cars, like 1995 left-over Mitsubishi Diamante LS for around 20K. If you make your homework and research the price correctly, the Saturn's "one price" bul...it is just your disadvantage. True, the Saturn cars are quite fair engineered (the cheapo plastic interior design is an other story), but their price is simply too high if you really buy the options you like. (Aircon, auto, cruse package). The "wonderfull" depreciation of Saturn cars is the other brainwash. True, Saturn depreciate the least comparing to the MSRP of the car. But if you buy your Chevy, Volvo, Mazda, Ford, etc. at MSRP (I speak about "regular" sedans or so, not about the "hot" cars) you made a big, big mistake. Here is the point: Diamante LS may have a MSRP over 30K, if equipped with leather and so on. A one year old car's value is just barely over 20K. So, Saturn says, Mitsubishi has an awfull depreciation in the first year. And they are "almost" right. The dealers had time to time a very big initiative for Mitsubishi, and they discounted that car over and over. You can buy it now bellow the "Blue Book"...as a new car, so, actually, the car's value as used is higher, than if you buy it now as new. A paradox situation, but true. My Chevy Lumina LS 's retail value (take the Blue Book or Edmund's) as USED car is today actually higher, than the price I paid for it as NEW car. And that Chevy is not a "hot" car at all... Probably I would buy maybe a Mitsubishi Diamante LS today, not the Chevy simply because it is a bargain now. Basically, if a dealer or car manufacturer promises you an easy worry-free way (and free from any homework, research and thinking before going to the dealership) to get a wonderful car and it won't cost you a LOT of extra money, and what they promise is true - than you are living on an other planet! I appreciate the Saturn's efforts to manufacture and their cars...But it isn't "an other kind of company". Same guys, just different (and not necessarily clean) methods to market. Still, if they bring Opel Vectra I may think about them, but not until. George Rath