In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Cognitee <email@example.com> wrote: > > The real big problem is: There is so much ignorance out there among >"therapists", many believe they are doing "therapy" when they are doing So, how do you define 'therapy'? A treatment to eliminate or mitigate the symptoms associated with a disorder? A treatment to eliminate a disorder? A treatment to enhance some personality feature, sort of the equivalent to breast enhancement, and perhaps could be called 'cosmetic personality therapy'? A treatment to develop personality features, sort of prosthetic personality therapy? >counseling. They contaminate the needed cooperative, mutual relationship >needed with the client for good treatment. Traditionally, the >psychoanalysts have been the most improperly "authoritative" and >pretentious. But, it occurs with others as soon as word use becomes loose Sorry, it may be that psychoanalysts are authoritative and pretentious but the the behaviorists don't seem to be slouches in these categories either... I fact I'll claim the psychoanalysts are like catholic priests in protestant country, highly ignorable, while the behaviorists are becoming next to Calvin in saintliness. >and the therapy/couseling distinction is blurred. This is why this is an >important issue. The classic 'couch' setting was atributed by Freud to a legacy from his early use of hypnosis, and later his dislike at being stared at for 8 hours a day... Things may have changed in terms of the dialogue between client and the analyst, but the stereotype is a lot of 'uh hu, I see, go on', which I see as rather non-authoritarian in nature, and sure beats some therapist yelling into the ear of the scared witless patient 'You must scream louder if you wish to stay in the same place'... The authoritarian aspect of analysis, and the people who like this system can object, clarify or expand, is that the analyst does 'hold the cards' as it were to who 'suffers', mostly everyone, and when therapy is completed, or at least at an end, mostly never. But then that's pretty much the picture of life as well, it's not over till you're dead, and while alive there's always room for improvement... But that's true for any therapy system, I have yet to see conditions listed which a therapist would use to say to a client, 'Sorry, no matter what you think, or feel on the subject, there is just nothing wrong with you psychologically'. [end of message ... text also available at <url:http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/go?choice=message&table=05_1997&mid=2916020&hilit=HYPNOSIS> ] -------------------------------- Article-ID: 05_1997&2952293 Score: 78 Subject: Re: The Rolls Are in the Flour, Laughing.