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Subject: Re: 100,000,000 dead slaves?
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From: smgregg@ix.netcom.com (Steve GREGG )
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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:37:49 -0700 (PDT)
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Article: soc.culture.african.american.203614
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Score: 100

In <Pine.SUN.3.91.960629081612.21946B-100000@rigel.oac.uci.edu>
Gabrielle Daniels <gdaniels@rigel.oac.uci.edu> writes:
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>On 29 Jun 1996, Steve GREGG, congratulating himself prematurely, wrote
>back to mine:
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>> That's the major difference between you and I, Gabrielle:
>> I will listen to your opinion and engage you in dialogue.
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>Oh, rot. You call what you say, 'dialogue'?
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>You just want to rant and whine about how white males are put upon,
and
>put out statements which have no real basis in fact to confirm your
>vaunted superiority.
OK, Gabrielle, show me where in this thread that I have explored in any
way this crazy theme that "white males are put upon." Since I don't
believe it and it's not relevant to this thread in any way, I'd sure
like to hear the arguments I made in favor of it that have outraged you
so.
You may not like the syphillitic bear bones but there they are.
I think you are reading in a lot of stuff into my words to fit your
prejudices. But they're not a very good fit.
>This is what is being heard daily by everyone, by blacks and by people
of
>color, in the media, in the classroom, in the workplace.
I have rebutted the 100 million dead slave thesis with facts.
You find those facts offensive to your preconceived ideological
position. So now you want to change this debate into some sort of vast
white conspiracy to demean blacks.
What it comes down to is that every time you can not defend your
position, you play the race card. I'm not impressed.
>> You, on the other hand, want to shut the other side up so that only
>> your voice can be heard.
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>Bullshit. (If I may not cover the 'i' with a '*'.)
Honey, weren't you the one who wanted me moderated out of this
newsgroup?
>I've heard the other side for so long, from the age of four (when I
>started to read with no instruction) until now, that I have decided to
>preserve my own righteous rage for a fight more worthwhile. I'm bowing
out
>because I'm sure not going to go into a quicksand like some other
threads
>have gone. You don't want to admit *anything* I say may be correct. I
>love history, but I also know that most of history is written by the
>*victors*. It's quite interesting to read and hear about the other
side.
>Ever try it sometime?
I'm much better read in history than you. In fact, I'll bet that I'm
much better read in African history than you.
When you say something correct, I'd be happy to agree with you. But if
you are going to just to say over and over again that 100 million
slaves died in the Middle Passage, I am going to respond every time
that it is an exagerated figure. It appears that you don't feel that
you have to back up your position with facts, just shout it louder and
more often and the other side is obliged to cave in.
>> Like a typical liberal you find that free speech rubs you the wrong
>> way.
>Like a typical rightwing idiot, you think you have the truth because



